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As Katie Ginella worked to clear her name on The Real Housewives of Orange County Season 19, Episode 9, her husband Matt Ginella revealed receipts to support at least part of her defense.
In the immediate aftermath of Katie’s “failed” polygraph test, she referenced several phone calls and text messages between Matt and Slade Smiley, aka Gretchen Rossi’s “life partner.” According to Katie, Slade had been attempting to “cover his tracks” after Tamra Judge made an on-camera allegation in New Orleans involving her and Gretchen.
Gretchen vehemently denied that Slade had made any such efforts, and so Matt later produced both his call logs and their text exchange as evidence that Katie was not lying.
Matt, much like his wife, struggled to make sense of why Jennifer Pedranti and fiancé Ryan Boyajian were “pretending” that they never heard Gretchen allegedly make the same claim that he and Katie did during an off-camera dinner.
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“You know how many three-way calls I’ve been on with Ryan and Slade, talking about what they told us at dinner? Look at the amount of calls,” Matt said, displaying his cell phone screen. “Forty-three minutes on March 10, just shooting the s–t with Slade? You don’t think he’s not trying to manipulate this whole situation?”
As images of Slade’s “911” texts to Matt appeared on screen, the journalist paraphrased the messages.
“He essentially said, ‘Gretchen is going to deny it, and Katie needs to hold the line and stay with Gretchen,'” Matt explained. “I said, ‘I got ahold of Katie. I told her what you told me. She’ll stay with Gretchen.'”
Katie Ginella’s husband Matt sheds new light on the drama with Gretchen and Slade
Matt further described the recurring theme of their few interactions as Slade consistently claiming that he “started Housewives.”
“Every time we’ve ever been anywhere near Slade and Gretchen, it’s the same stories over and over and over,” he said during RHOC‘s Sept. 4 episode. “They’re out to bury Tamra.”
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After Katie agreed that Gretchen and Slade’s goal was to allegedly make them “hate the person [they] hate,” Matt added, “And Jenn left you out to dry.”
Replied Katie, “Honestly, the most hurtful part of all of this is my dearest friend is like, ‘I didn’t hear it. Neither did Ryan.'”
That prompted Matt to point out, “They were there!”
Though Katie tearfully shared that she nonetheless still missed Jenn’s friendship, she ended the conversation by cryptically declaring, “I don’t think I’ll ever be with these women again.”
Where Matt Ginella and Slade Smiley stand now
On The Real Housewives of Orange County After Show, Katie also mentioned that Slade had frantically called Matt “like 20 times in a row” while she and her castmates were in New Orleans. Shortly afterward, Matt offered to “talk this out,” but Slade apparently “ghosted” him.
Commenting on the status of the men’s friendship today, Kate revealed, “[Matt] doesn’t talk to Slade anymore.”
As the drama plays out on RHOC, get more details on what happened in New Orleans, prior to Slade texting Matt.
